Penn 180

[Ron Jones]

So,
I won a 180 that I was sure I wouldn't win. From what I can tell it is a Surfmaster 100 with slow gears and Jigmaster drags. I think the 100 is similar in size to a 1/0, but I don't know much else. Anyone have any more data or experience?
Ron

[Keta]

The Surfmaster 100 is the same size as the Squidder 146.  The 100 and 180 are both 3:1, the 180 is slightly larger acording to Penn Parts specs and close to the 1/0. I do not know about the drag stack OD.

I like using the 100 and 150.

[Irish Jigger]

I think you may have a Baymaster there, 2.3:1 ratio?

[George4741]

If it is indeed a 180 Baymaster, then it uses the same spool as a 100 surfmaster.  It also uses 6-155 drag washers and is slightly smaller than a 1/0 senator.

[Alto Mare]

Yes the spool is the same as the 100, but gears are not. The 100 uses the same gears as a squidder, the 1/0 and many others.

[George4741]

Yes, the 180 is basically a narrowed 155 beachmaster and is one of Penn's smallest conventionals.  I narrowed my 155 to the 180 width because I'M NARROW MINDED.

Here's an interesting fact.  A few early 200 surfmasters have smaller main gears (same size as the 180) and 6-155 drags.  More confusion to add to the Penn line-up.  I have one.  At different times I've narrowed it to a 150 and 100 width.  

[Alto Mare]

Thanks for confusing us George .
I'm thinking someone was experimenting with that reel.
I know you could drill the 13-200, didn't have the 13-140.

[George4741]

Sal, now you're confusing me.   I'm not sure what you mean about the 13-200/13-140 gears.  

[Keta]

Isn't the 6-60 washer larger OD than the 6-155?  I have a 209 I can take apart to measure the washers but I don't really like reassembling them if I don't have to.

[George4741]

Isn't the 6-60 washer larger OD than the 6-155?  I have a 209 I can take apart to measure the washers but I don't really like reassembling them if I don't have to.

Yes, the 6-60 is larger.

[Alto Mare]

Sal, now you're confusing me.   I'm not sure what you mean about the 13-200/13-140 gears.  

Pinion gear George.

[Keta]

I'm confused Sal (not unusual), is the spool shaft thicker?

[Alto Mare]

My fault Lee, I didn't explain. I was putting together a squidder and only had gears for the 100, the main gear is the same but the pinion ID is smaller, so I had to enlarge.

[Keta]

Now I uderstand.

[Alto Mare]

I know that there are lots of Penn Gurus here, I thought it would be nice to show some gears side by side.
These are the most popular sizes, well to me anyway:



And here is a shot of the smallest gear to the largest, just to compare: