What, exactly, is a Penn "99"?

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What the heck   Is that Ted

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What the heck   Is that Ted

That is my Penn "black Jack" made by a total hack  


  Ted

[DaBigOno]

That is my Penn "black Jack" made by a total hack  

Come on Ted, give us a little more than that.  Give us the run-down and more pics please 

[Ron Jones]

Well, I think any reel that is 99 width can be classified as a form of a 99......
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I don't know about that. A 99 width Jigmaster would use a 66 frame. That means a 112H, 66, 65, Albacore and Yellowtail Specials and reels like them, 3/0 Senators and I'm sure I've forgotten one or two would be 99s. I think we should stick to a 99 being a 99 and everything else being everything else.
Ron

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Not disagreeing with you at all Ron. You're correct, the silver beach is the only true 99, but in the reel world we have more options....


"99" is also used as a reference to a width of a narrowed reel such as 113HN and 114HN,jigmaster 500, etc.

[Keta]

Not disagreeing with you at all Ron. You're correct, the silver beach is the only true 99, but in the reel world we have more options....


"99" is also used as a reference to a width of a narrowed reel such as 113HN and 114HN,jigmaster 500, etc.

But I would not call a 349 a 501 because they are the same width....

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Not disagreeing with you at all Ron. You're correct, the silver beach is the only true 99, but in the reel world we have more options....


"99" is also used as a reference to a width of a narrowed reel such as 113HN and 114HN,jigmaster 500, etc.

But I would not call a 349 a 501 because they are the same width....

That's cause guys from Oregon do things differently lol  Hope you have a good halibut season this year Lee

[Keta]

Yarrrrr!

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Well, I think any reel that is 99 width can be classified as a form of a 99......

I don't know about that. A 99 width Jigmaster would use a 66 frame. That means a 112H, 66, 65, Albacore and Yellowtail Specials and reels like them, 3/0 Senators and I'm sure I've forgotten one or two would be 99s. I think we should stick to a 99 being a 99 and everything else being everything else.
Ron
[/quote]will the 112h  stand fit the 65?

[RowdyW]

Yes, it's a 30-66 stand which is the same width for a 65, 66, 112h among others. The 30-66 stand is stronger & has an option for a rod clamp.

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Gotcha anyone have one they want to sell?
             Jamie

[MarkT]

As stated already, the original 99 was a Silver Beach, similar to a Surf Master. It has smaller drags and lower gear ratio than a Jigmaster.  I'll be kind and call it unexceptional.

Jerry Morris and the guys at Hermosa Tackle Box discovered that a conversion could be done to a Jigmaster to create a reel of the same size as the old Silver Beach. This was back in the late 60's. I got this story from Bob O who worked there at the time. Tunanorth tells the same story. The Newell kit showed up in '74 and had the aluminum spool, solid bars and base that made it stronger. The '99' converted Jigmaster is what most people think of as a '99'. That's why it commonly has the '99' in quotes. It's not an actual 99 but is the Jigmaster equivalent. The 332 was Newell's take on the Jigmaster conversion.  Many reels these days are in this form factor like the Trinidad/Torium 20, The Daiwa Saltiga/Saltist 40's, etc.

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Well, I think any reel that is 99 width can be classified as a form of a 99......

I don't know about that. A 99 width Jigmaster would use a 66 frame. That means a 112H, 66, 65, Albacore and Yellowtail Specials and reels like them, 3/0 Senators and I'm sure I've forgotten one or two would be 99s. I think we should stick to a 99 being a 99 and everything else being everything else.
Ron

will the 112h  stand fit the 65?
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No, the 112H stand WILL NOT FIT a 65....the 112H seat has 3 mounting holes and is 3/8" wider and the 65 reel has 2 mounting holes. The 112H and 113H stands are exactly the same except for the stamped part number


  If you're looking to put a clamp type seat on your 65, then it is a part number 66, as already mentioned.


  The 66 stand is most commonly found on a 209,309,66


   Ted

[RowdyW]

Ted, my 112h's have 30-66 stands and they have 2 mounting holes on each side.

[RowdyW]

The 113 & 113h use identical stands & have 3 holes on each side. (30-113)