Reel Repair by Alan Tani

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Fred

Sal just tested an insert and drag kit for the 113H at 37 lbs drag coming straight off the reel, no rod. 

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get yourself an alvey sidecast

If you do get an Avet EX4/02, be sure to get one of the early models. The last couple years they did away with the spool stop button. While I'm here: There was also a single speed version of this reel that, if you can find one, will be much cheaper and just fine for your needs.

akfish, thanks for that info. & yup I noticed the single speed version of this reel when doing a web search

wallacewt, the  O'l Alvey Sidecast  now this is an idea that might have merit.

OK I have looked at this a bit & made some phone calls. A used 6/0 Penn can be had used at a pretty reasonable price. But they aren't that easy to find with solid frames & Penn is only producing the US made 113 with a solid frame.

In stock form the 6/0 I don't believe has the drag in stock form. How much drag can you get with a 6/0 & Tiburon frame & metal side plates?

There is a point money wise where it would be better to just buy an Avet HX Raptor or Makaira 16 or 20. But im all for doing what I want as cheap & efficiently as possible.

If I could come up with a way to selectively lock the spool the US made 113N would work as is.... I think.

I need help with drag upgrades for the Penn 6/0. What can be done with this reel?

The more I think about Alan's idea of locking the spool, I like it. I like it much more than trying to increase the drag. This would allow me to use the 113N & live with the very acceptable stock drag of over 20 lbs.
Thinking Accurate metal side plates would be a place to start. Maybe? Just thinking out loud. Cant afford to do to much at the moment. But I can certainly gather some thoughts when I can. Maybe start buying stuff a piece at a time.

Any ideas on how to selectively lock the spool on a 113 ?

Ok River Rat,
I'm probably going to rock the boat here, but I think locking the spool is a bad idea. If you hook into a 125lb cat. You need a little give or something is going to break. Sure that cat weighs in at 125, but he is not going to be able to pull back his own weight in the water.
We Have some real Guru's on here and I think you came at the right time.
Our Man Adam has just came out with an insert kit for a 113h that can hold 37lbs of drag. That's a Lot!
Our R&D Dept. has tested it with amazing results. These are not available as of yet, but patience is a virtue. You will not find a more affordable package with that kind of drag.
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If you need a truly locked drag, I could cut you an insert to replace the drag stack  1 piece solid stainless, ears to engage the gear, and the ID to match the gear sleeve.  Drag slip wouldnt be an option, but you could lift a buick out of the lake without losing line. 

Three se7ens, I appreciate that, I really do. But because of what Shark Hunter has said & I've all ready been thinking  about I'm not completely satisfied this is the way to go. Your just another fella here that I am surprised at how gracious you are. I also have yet to decide exactly what reel. Between a 4/0 & 6/0 at the moment.


Shark Hunter, your in no way rocking the boat. I was thinking about the diameter of the spindle on these reels right after I made my last post. I began thinking a little more....

All that force is being supported by only 2 bushings or bearings on the end of the spindle. That's not much area to take the kind of loads normally placed on a reel.
I also agree, it's a safe bet a fish cant pull it's own weight in the water. The other very big issue, is pulling hooks or better described as ripping hooks from the fishes mouth. I've not heard of this happening but at some point this has to become a very real issue with these high drag ranges....Jeff 

That is why you need the give Jeff. You need the drag to work. Locked down is going to lead to bad things. You have our input buddy. Personally, I would fish a 114H with Black Pearl Hex Gears or Adam's insert soon to come, ss sleeve and a Tiburon frame. If you need a 114H, I can give you a deal on one to get you started. I think a bone stock 114H with a 5 stack, ss sleeve and steel gears will get the job done.  We are here to help.

 Why would you do the 6/0 & not the 4/0 ? I want o get this part right!!

Line capacity isn't an issue. They both will hold plenty half full. 

Would a topless frame work? They are so much more user friendly when things go bad.

I'm also thinking a narrow frame is best.

Any reason not to buy the spool kit with the frame ?

Are the accuplates still available ?

You don't need large line capacity so have you considered something like the Omoto Triple?

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