Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Aahaa derrrrr, wake up Don, cheers all Don.

Hello,

Could the loss of drag lbs also be from improper washer stacking and not the drag washers being worn out?

Yes, entirely possible.  But will show up as a significant loss of pressure usually.

You know what?, go to the Baja thread, I seem to recall there are options as to how the stack can be assembled.

My search skills are pretty weak.  Google search usually works better.

Quote from: Rancanfish on May 04, 2020, 11:47:31 PM
Yes, entirely possible.  But will show up as a significant loss of pressure usually.

You know what?, go to the Baja thread, I seem to recall there are options as to how the stack can be assembled.

My search skills are pretty weak.  Google search usually works better.

Thanks! I actually just took the handle off and noticed the 2 metal spacers were not cupped, tightened everything up and drag is a lot closer to the 25LB range! Thanks again.

Sometimes it is the simplest things. I won't tell you how many times I have taken a reel apart over and over to just find a ID-10T error.

Quote from: Rancanfish on May 04, 2020, 02:05:50 PM
Donnyboat,  I bet Bill figured it out.  That was 2017.   

Yeah guys, the pinion was the issue....however a problem surfaced when it was fished, the reel would lock up, a quick 5 minutes in Alan's hands revealed it was missing the the little spool/pinion bearing that is nestled in the spool shaft that the pinion shaft turns on......part number 55-910.....when i bought the reel it was in parts missing the spool, never missed the bearing until i tried to fish it.  Used it extensively on the 11th Annual crab trip with Alan and crew, it performed great.....

What's a good price on a nice Baja?

Quote from: Classtime on December 01, 2024, 02:04:28 AMWhat's a good price on a nice Baja?

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I would pay $150 but not over $200.  Keep your eyes open and they can be found.

I grabbed one that looks nice and inside it appears as if someone had followed the guidance in this thread with greased screws, frame faces etc. I didn't go under the bridge yet and now it is wrapped up as my Christmas present from my wife . But, I made an attempt to improve free-spool and got confused as to where the 6 bearings are on the reel and in the schematic.

1. The left side bearing is built into #40? And if it needed replacing it would be replaced by the entire assembly?
2. I didn't see #55. Is it within the right side of the spool? (I missed oiling that one.)
3. #55A was obvious.
4. #26 was underneath the Pinion? (I was able to drop some oil on it.)
5. #5A is under the main gear.
6. #55B is on top of the drag stack in the right side plate.

So am I correct that bearings 1-4 all need to be in fine condition for the best freespool?
Jeff

Quote from: Classtime on December 14, 2024, 04:46:30 PMI grabbed one that looks nice and inside it appears as if someone had followed the guidance in this thread with greased screws, frame faces etc. I didn't go under the bridge yet and now it is wrapped up as my Christmas present from my wife . But, I made an attempt to improve free-spool and got confused as to where the 6 bearings are on the reel and in the schematic.

1. The left side bearing is built into #40? And if it needed replacing it would be replaced by the entire assembly?
2. I didn't see #55. Is it within the right side of the spool? (I missed lubing that one.)
3. #55A was obvious.
4. #26 was underneath the Pinion? (I was able to drop some lube on it.)
5. #5A is under the main gear.
6. #55B is on top of the drag stack in the right side plate.

So am I correct that bearings 1-4 all need to be in fine condition for the best freespool?
Jeff

If you don't mind, I am going to answer this in broader terms that might make it easier for debugging if there is a problem.

For star drags reels with an attached spindle (spindle turns with spool): Anything that the spindles rotates on or potentially rubs against affects free spool performance. 

Usually this means cleaning and lightly lubricating a single ball bearing on each side of the spool and potentially polishing the hole in the pinion and potentially messing with its positioning so that the pinion does not rub on the shaft in freespool.

The gear train is entirely disengaged when you flip  the eccentric (freespool) lever unless the pinion is rubbing on spool shaft, in which case the fix is to address the pinion rubbing.  If the pinion is rubbing and putting back pressure on the main gear, your freespool is fighting your drag. 

One trick to see if pinion rubbing is affecting freespool is to temporarily remove the pinion and see if the spool spins more freely.   This is usually not necessary unless you sense a problem, or you are one of those folk that want to get maximum  possible freespool performance.

BTW,  the 113HN  went through some changes that you might not see in the schematics, including later versions adding a ball bearing on the handle side of the main shaft.

The consensus here is that saltwater reel bearings that are not part of freespool rotation  should be packed with grease. 

-J