Penn 500 100% Drag with half turn of star - how to fix it????

[nelz]

Does the handle turn smoothly, no resistance?

[El Pescador]

Dr. MaxedOUT??      Dr. MaxedOUT!!!

"I'm not a Doctor, BUTT I'll take a look!!!!"

Ted,

here is the drag stack sequence from the left - Delrin washer, main gear, CF to the last metal keyed washer ontop to the most right



Here are a few photos of the ProChallanger main gear, tell me IF this is what you are looking to view???









Give me a GREEN LIGHT when I can button this up and I'll include the wavy 8-60 place of the HD Belleville washer.

TANKS.

Wayne

[El Pescador]

Does the handle turn smoothly, with no resistance?

nelz,

YES, the handle turns effortlessly, until I spin the star drag less than a half of a turn, then it hits the wall.

Wayne

[nelz]

Does the handle turn smoothly, with no resistance?

YES, the handle turns effortlessly, until I spin the star drag less than a half of a turn, then it hits the wall.

Spin to tighten or loosen? What hits the wall, star?

[El Pescador]

Spin the tighten.   Once the drag started to contact, it become increasingly harder to turn the handle, until after a half a turn when you first feel drag pressure, you cannot turn the handle any more,

May I say it....  It is MAXED OUT!!!!   or did Ted trademark that name!!!!!

Wayne

[nelz]

Spin the tighten.   Once the drag started to contact, it become increasingly harder to turn the handle, until after a half a turn when you first feel drag pressure, you cannot turn the handle any more

Sounds like the star is hitting the sideplate! Slightly longer spacing sleeve fixes that.

[nelz]

Also adding spring washers to raise the sleeve up a bit would work (as long as the stack doesn't start hitting the plate as a result, which would cause a new problem).

Are you using the stock spacing sleeve? #9-60

[El Pescador]

No,

I'm using a 12.50mm spacing sleeve from ProChallanger

     https://www.prochallenger.com/product/spacing-sleeve/14?cs=true

I have 11.50mm stock spacing sleeve from Penn I can use if needed.

Wayne

[nelz]

I'm using a 12.50mm spacing sleeve from ProChallanger  I have 11.50mm stock spacing sleeve from Penn I can use if needed.

Actually, the longer one is better if the star's rubbing the sideplate.

[El Pescador]

Nelz,

When the star is buttoned-down,

I still have 2+mm of gap/space between the inside of the star and the metal space ring of the right side plate.

Still working on it.

Wayne

[Swami805]

Might try a smaller O.D. washer under the main gear,one that doesn't stick out past the teeth on the gear sleeve. Don't know if that is the problem but I'd imagine the stock smaller ones are there for a reason

[Bryan Young]

Wayne,

I'll take a look is you want to meet up.

[nelz]

Nelz,
When the star is buttoned-down, I still have 2+mm of gap/space between the inside of the star and the metal space ring of the right side plate.
Still working on it.
Wayne

Okie-dokie I tried. Let's see what they find in person, keep us posted.

[RowdyW]

Wayne, I still think reply #8 will solve your problem. That's the setup that I used in a couple of 112H's which uses the same drag setup. That should give you about one full turn to full lockdown.

[Bryan Young]

Is the sleeve hitting the side plate?  I've found that the tolerance stack up can cause the sleeve to bind with the side plate when the drags are tightened because the sleeve does not spin when the drags are tight.