Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Hey handi2, just got done soaking a Black Penn 6/0 spool yesterday in vinegar and baking soda. It works great but DON'T leave in for 24hrs. it'll ruin it. I just do 1-2hrs then I wash them with fresh water and Dawn dish soap and they look great. P.S. DON'T tell my wife I used the kitchen sink, she'll kill me.          Richy

It was someone else who left the parts in overnight. He be brought the main gear and crosswind gear in to me to order new parts. The crosswind gear was unrecognizable..!!

Simple Green's head of R&D Dept. just called me, answering my questions on the issue Sal brought up re: the AL parts corroding to the point of not being useful.

Here is her answer:


A Cut & Paste from the website: 
When used with caution and according to the instructions, Simple Green All-Purpose Cleaner has been safely and successfully used to clean aluminum.
Simple Green All-Purpose Cleaner, Crystal Simple Green Industrial Cleaner & Degreaser, and Simple Green Pressure Washer Concentrates have been used on aircraft, automotive, industrial and consumer aluminum items for over 20 years.

However, caution and common sense must be used: aluminum is a soft metal that easily corrodes with unprotected exposure to water.


The aqueous-base and alkalinity of Simple Green All-Purpose Cleaner can accelerate the corrosion process.


Therefore, contact times for unprotected or unpainted aluminum surfaces should be kept as brief as the job will allow - never for more than 10 minutes.


Large cleaning jobs should be conducted in smaller-area stages to achieve lower contact time. Rinsing after cleaning should always be extremely thorough - paying special attention to flush out cracks and crevices to remove all Simple Green product residues.


Unfinished, uncoated or unpainted aluminum cleaned with Simple Green products should receive some sort of protectant after cleaning to prevent oxidation.
Simple Green has also developed break-through water based cleaners that are safe for use on metals, plastics, rubber and high tech alloys. Extreme Simple Green Aircraft & Precision Cleaner, Pro Series Simple Green Automotive Cleaner, and Simple Green Pro HD are available on both the industrial and retail markets, respectively. These products were initially developed for the aircraft industry and extensive testing shows that they are safe and effective on a variety of metals and other sensitive surfaces even in the most extreme circumstances.

Simple Green Stainless Steel One Step Cleaner & Polish is another option for cleaning polished aluminum. This product is designed for light duty metal cleaning and polishing.



Her suggestion if we want to soak AL parts, use Simple Green PRO HD  -  It contains a corrosion inhibitor  -  Soak for as long as you want!!!!      Available at Home Depot.

And she reminded me to always clean up the parts in fresh water to rinse off any Simple Green.

IT's just that simple!!



Wayne

Hey Wayne you left out the rest of the information...And to conclude your tip of the day I offer the following: 

Aluminum is a chemical element in the boron group with symbol Al and atomic number 13. It is a silvery white, soft, ductile metal. Aluminum is the third most abundant element, and the most abundant metal in the Earth's crust.
Symbol: Al

Atomic number: 13

Melting point: 1,221°F (660.3°C)

Electron configuration: [Ne] 3s2 3p1

Atomic mass: 26.981539 ± 0.0000008 u

Discoverer: Hans Christian Ørsted

Chemical series: Metal, Post-transition metal, Period 3 element, Boron group, Metalloid, Heavy metal    Dominick

Quote from: Dominick on October 24, 2014, 07:13:43 PM
Hey Wayne you left out the rest of the information...And to conclude your tip of the day I offer the following: 

Aluminum is a chemical element in the boron group with symbol Al and atomic number 13. It is a silvery white, soft, ductile metal. Aluminum is the third most abundant element, and the most abundant metal in the Earth's crust.
Symbol: Al

Atomic number: 13

Melting point: 1,221°F (660.3°C)

Electron configuration: [Ne] 3s2 3p1

Atomic mass: 26.981539 ± 0.0000008 u

Discoverer: Hans Christian Ørsted

Chemical series: Metal, Post-transition metal, Period 3 element, Boron group, Metalloid, Heavy metal    Dominick

To all you AT.com readers out there,

this is why I'll be at Dominick's tonight to supervise his use of a knife for pumpkin carving, while we enjoy Game 3 of the World Series!  Go Giants!

Wayne

Quote from: El Pescador on October 24, 2014, 07:52:06 PM

To all you AT.com readers out there,

this is why I'll be at Dominick's tonight to supervise his use of a knife for pumpkin carving, while we enjoy Game 3 of the World Series!  Go Giants!

Wayne

...I don't blame you Wayne.

Thanks for checking in on the Simple Green.
I believe that mine is the Simple Green Pro HD .

Sal

Deres nuffin wrong wit Zin and carfing pumpkinsh.  Dombinink

Quote from: Dominick on October 24, 2014, 07:13:43 PM
Hey Wayne you left out the rest of the information...And to conclude your tip of the day I offer the following:  

Aluminum is a chemical element in the boron group with symbol Al and atomic number 13. It is a silvery white, soft, ductile metal. Aluminum is the third most abundant element, and the most abundant metal in the Earth's crust.
Symbol: Al

Atomic number: 13

Melting point: 1,221°F (660.3°C)

Electron configuration: [Ne] 3s2 3p1

Atomic mass: 26.981539 ± 0.0000008 u

Discoverer: Hans Christian Ørsted

Chemical series: Metal, Post-transition metal, Period 3 element, Boron group, Metalloid, Heavy metal    Dominick

More important to our applications would be the Nobility Scale, notice that aluminum alloy is the 5th most
"active" and it tends to go away when exposed to a active environment.

Oh, that explains why I couldn't find my aluminum Mitchell parts after soaking them for a couple of weeks in a tub of purple degreaser!

😄😄😄

Fred

Fred

I have some left over parts for a Mitchell 306 if you need them. My 3 reels are in retirement in a tote. I cleaned my reels with WD-40 soak.

Mike

One trick I have learned is to rub chrome parts with aluminum foil.  Dip the foil in water then rub.

Thanks, Mike --

But I don't need them at this point -- got plenty.

Appreciate the offer -- at some point, I will need something -- for now I'm good...

Best,

Fred

Quote from: El Pescador on October 24, 2014, 05:16:22 PM
Simple Green's head of R&D Dept. just called me, answering my questions on the issue Sal brought up re: the AL parts corroding to the point of not being useful.

Here is her answer:


A Cut & Paste from the website: 
When used with caution and according to the instructions, Simple Green All-Purpose Cleaner has been safely and successfully used to clean aluminum.
Simple Green All-Purpose Cleaner, Crystal Simple Green Industrial Cleaner & Degreaser, and Simple Green Pressure Washer Concentrates have been used on aircraft, automotive, industrial and consumer aluminum items for over 20 years.

However, caution and common sense must be used: aluminum is a soft metal that easily corrodes with unprotected exposure to water.
The aqueous-base and alkalinity of Simple Green All-Purpose Cleaner can accelerate the corrosion process.

Unfinished, uncoated or unpainted aluminum cleaned with Simple Green products should receive some sort of protectant after cleaning to prevent oxidation.

The science here is not quite right
electrolisis not Corrosion
Oxidation of aluminium is what makes it the wonderfull stuff it is
two different metals and a liquid and you will get metal loss in ali as it will be the sacrificial anode for all metals except Zinc
I am no scientist though
best Jon

This is for Alan...

Find Joy in everything that you do.  lol