113h/114h senator - short version

[Shark Hunter]

When they get glazed over, and become slick. The texture of the carbon fiber give it the bite that is needed for a stronger drag.

[coralsea]

thank you.

[coralsea]

I tested the drag washers on my 114H reel today. They holded 17 kg (37,4lbs) and could hold even more..load ( i just pulled the line out)
The numbers mentioned are Ok or i did smth. wrong?

[Shark Hunter]

That numbers seems kind of high. the drag should be tested with the reel mounted to a rod and the rod bent to give you more of an accurate result. I'd say you are good with those numbers. If the drags are dry, it will give you higher numbers as well. We use Cal's drag grease.

[coralsea]

thank you for reply.
like that?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cals-Carbontex-Drag-Washer-and-Reel-Grease-/400652454032?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d48bf4890#ht_0wt_0

[Shark Hunter]

that's the stuff!

[coralsea]

thanks a lot.

[otghoyt]

I don't know whom may be monitoring this thread for new questions....so here's hoping. 

Is there a Newell, aluminum, reel seat available for replacing the stocker on a 8 hole, 114H?   I really don't want to full frame it $$$$$.  I'd appreciate the model number so I can chase it up on line.

I got a 114H on an old Seeker lifter rod with a car door mangled tip as trade for some work on another fella's gear.  It's working out to be a fairly custom reel on the cheaps.  I double dogged it because it was just 2 e-z to do (thanks guys) and carbon fibered the drag discs.  I scrounged some 114H2 aluminum bars and a brand new aluminum spool for 40 bucks off a guy here on the forum.  So now it's time to do something about  the reel seat which has some wrinkled up chrome.

Thanks mucho,

WOTHoyt

[maxpowers]

Charkbait has the 114 tib topless frame (T4) for $60 I think.  Might as well tib it up and make it a nice reel for killing the anticipated 100+ lbs BFT for the upcoming season.

[DaBigOno]

I believe the Penn 114H requires a T60 frame which might be a bit more.

[Ron Jones]

I know that Newell made a Black Marlin Special (wide version of a 114,) but I haven't seen one for a regular 114. If he did and you find it please post pics, I'm nits about Newelled Penns and that would be something to see.
Ron

[maxpowers]

My bad.  I kept thinking that was a 113 4/0 for some reason.

[otghoyt]

I have been pounding the net for any cross references that would lead me to a stock replacement piece.  I get a sniff here and there but they are all dead end leads.  The 6/0 is an island all to itself and don't get no respek!  Unless you fly kites with it.  Thought Mr. A.T. might chime in with a bit of his infinite Penn wisdom.  Ahhemm, that's your Que Alan..........

[alantani]

not that i know of.  i spoke to tom, the guy that made the 9/0 frame, about making just the reel seat.  it did not sound feasible. 

[otghoyt]

I found an old e-buy link..... 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Penn-Senator-114H-base-spool-bars-screws-and-clamp-Newell-/121153752768?nma=true&si=0fGmSw92BhUkku7w9EDAPEYR3f8%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

It's pretty vague as far as the description goes.  The ad is so old the main picture isn't there and you can't enlarge the little ones. Probably a Black Marlin set-up.  The only thing that looks familiar to me is the bars...exactly like my set-up and mine has a "Penn 114HL" label in the recess.  I flipped the front one over so the notch is up so that my sausage fingers can guide the line on the spool easier.  So if the cross bars are the same...hmmmmmm?

Seems like Penn just didn't know what they wanted to do with the 114H.  They changed it so much and so often it morphed into a different reel altogether.  So does anybody know if the 114HL full aluminum frame is an 8 hole frame?  Might as well get a Tib or learn to like what I got.